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on the other side of the street, supporters of israel said israel should be able to defend itself to attack. each side said they want a peaceful solution. diplomatic efforts failed today. the attacks continued, killing many civilians. >> reporter: among the latest target, a sports stadium. which israel says was a site for launching rockets. palestinians say the death toll in gaza has now reached more than 100. half of whom are civilians. among the dead, 11 members of the same family. >> suddenly, the world collapsed. >> reporter: israel, continues to come under attack from rocket fire from gaza. at least seven people were injured. since the start of the conflict, three were killed. the militant group will not compromise at the negotiating table. >> translator: we will not accept any israeli demands. they are the ones who attacked. a cease-fire will not cure when our demands are met. >> reporter: israel's president contends his country's military campaign has one goal. >> i think this time, it's clear that we don't have any ambitions to conquer land to gain any advantages, but really
on the other side of the street, supporters of israel said israel should be able to defend itself to attack. each side said they want a peaceful solution. diplomatic efforts failed today. the attacks continued, killing many civilians. >> reporter: among the latest target, a sports stadium. which israel says was a site for launching rockets. palestinians say the death toll in gaza has now reached more than 100. half of whom are civilians. among the dead, 11 members of the same family....
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. >>> a cease-fire between israel, and hamas. the u.s. role in bringing both sides together, and a devastating attack, just this morning. >> also, protesters storm a bay area wal-mart. the message they send, and which stores they plan to target next. >> first, the reminder that you can get >>> happening now, a line of people out a south bay store waiting for black friday. some of them have already been there for several days now. what's interesting is that at a lot of other stores where you might expect to find lines, there aren't any. ktvu's matt keller in san jose now to explain what's going on. >> reporter: frank, black friday deals actually start on friday here at best buy. 12:00a.m., to be exact. these people have been in line for several days, waiting for the best deal. the products may be different. >> xbox 360 hopefully. >> i want a new tv and a game system. >> reporter: be one of the first inside when best buy opens friday at midnight. >> save half a grand, maybe a grand. >> reporter: this group arrived last friday to be the firs
. >>> a cease-fire between israel, and hamas. the u.s. role in bringing both sides together, and a devastating attack, just this morning. >> also, protesters storm a bay area wal-mart. the message they send, and which stores they plan to target next. >> first, the reminder that you can get >>> happening now, a line of people out a south bay store waiting for black friday. some of them have already been there for several days now. what's interesting is that at a lot...
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. >>> in the middle east the ceasefire between israel and palestinians militants appears to be holding. >>> thousands of supporters of hamas marched in the streets of gaza city celebrating the end of the conflict. the leader of hamas urged everyone to respect the truce as long as israel does and each side is claiming victory. >> the idea of invading gaza is over and will never come back again. >> we acted against the group's infrastructure and thing that have happened over the years were destroyed. >>> israeli soldiers packed up and with drew from the border as part of the ceasefire agreement israel is easing the blockade of gaza and allowing supplies to come in. >>> in syria, one of the last hospitals in aleppo has been bombed by government war planes. it is a field hospital where civilians could get medical help. activists said 11 fighters and a doctor and three children were on the street were killed. rebels captured a kill military base on the boardedder with iraq. >>> in egypt, the president gave himself more power today and barred decisions from the judiciary. he negotiated a cea
. >>> in the middle east the ceasefire between israel and palestinians militants appears to be holding. >>> thousands of supporters of hamas marched in the streets of gaza city celebrating the end of the conflict. the leader of hamas urged everyone to respect the truce as long as israel does and each side is claiming victory. >> the idea of invading gaza is over and will never come back again. >> we acted against the group's infrastructure and thing that have...
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israel is pressing ahead with its power. gaza militants haven't attacked israel since the night before. >>> a doctor in new jersey is facing several charges after large amounts of chemicals commonly used for making bombs and explosive devices was discovered at the home. police also found several assault rifles and other weapons when they searched the home of roberto rivera. police went to rivera's home after getting a report of potentially hazardous material in the house. jts six people were injured after two pasadena police helicopters smacked into each other. one chopper clipped another while landing and the other was taking off. it happened yesterday at the pasadena police department's heli pad. it appears none of the injuries are life threatening and the national transportation safety board is investigating. >>> idaho police are searching for two men who killed a monkey at a zoo exhibit. police say a security guard saw two men running away from the primate exhibit saturday morning and one of the zoo's monkeys was found w
israel is pressing ahead with its power. gaza militants haven't attacked israel since the night before. >>> a doctor in new jersey is facing several charges after large amounts of chemicals commonly used for making bombs and explosive devices was discovered at the home. police also found several assault rifles and other weapons when they searched the home of roberto rivera. police went to rivera's home after getting a report of potentially hazardous material in the house. jts six...
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. >> with israel to mark its 65th birthday next year, there is a lot on the table for this gathering, finding a temporary home in baltimore, which serves as a base for one the strongest jewish communities in the u.s. >> and next month governor o'malley will travel to israel for the third time. this time he says he's taking his son. >> now, your 11 that weather plus forecast with meteorology john collins. >> really nice today. didn't make it to 70 degrees, but very, very nice. cold front coming out to the west. that's responsible for the nice conditions we've had, because the southerly flow ahead of that front brought the mild temperatures. as the front gets closer we'll see some changes. doesn't look like it will be in here during the day tomorrow, so we'll still be on the warm side of things. but by tomorrow night into tuesday we'll begin to see the changes the front is bringing to illinois. you watched that game this evening in chicago and you saw all that rain. there's even snow west of chicago right now involved with that system coming in. as the game was getting near the end the
. >> with israel to mark its 65th birthday next year, there is a lot on the table for this gathering, finding a temporary home in baltimore, which serves as a base for one the strongest jewish communities in the u.s. >> and next month governor o'malley will travel to israel for the third time. this time he says he's taking his son. >> now, your 11 that weather plus forecast with meteorology john collins. >> really nice today. didn't make it to 70 degrees, but very, very...
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. >> total equation here is relatively simple if if israel will be -- if israel will have peace and quiet and then in gaza it will also be quiet. >> israel has 75,000 troops on stand by ready to launch a ground invasion into gaza. u.n. secretary general is expected to arrive in egypt for peace talks today. >>> a meeting is scheduled in san francisco today on pollution control. environmental justice group claims that cancer causing dust from the august fire at the refinery is lingering around homes and gardens. global community monitor says five of eight dust samples contained high levels of potent carcinogens. chevron has questioned whether the tests were scientifically valid. >>> the local union says its members has gone 16 months without a contract. the union says the port is demanding pay cuts despite having a surplus and that it's lying about port finances to the workers and public. workers will begin their strike at 9:00 tonight at the oakland airport. strike action at the port begins tomorrow morning. >>> right now it's just about 4:35. there is a rally planned at uc davis today to
. >> total equation here is relatively simple if if israel will be -- if israel will have peace and quiet and then in gaza it will also be quiet. >> israel has 75,000 troops on stand by ready to launch a ground invasion into gaza. u.n. secretary general is expected to arrive in egypt for peace talks today. >>> a meeting is scheduled in san francisco today on pollution control. environmental justice group claims that cancer causing dust from the august fire at the refinery...
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. >> the conflict is escalating where a family of three was killed today in southern israel. the blast came after they assassinated the chief. and the militant group, they said that 15 palestinians were also killed in the attack. and the commander said that they targeted the chief as payback for the rockets that were fired into israel. they are living within 25 miles and being warned to stay home as that fight intensifies. >>> caught on tape. folks wanted for questioning in an armed robbery that ended in gunfire, right? near the white house. you're looking at store surveillance video of the individuals that they say, they may know something about what happened last night. or should i say last friday at 18th street and jefferson place. that's where investigators say they robbed a group of five people and at least one shot was fired during an ensuing chase. >>> and also in d.c. tonight, they announced the indictment of nine suspected gang members. now police are linking these guys to a series of beatings and robberies in china town. and somebody stole redskins head coach mike s
. >> the conflict is escalating where a family of three was killed today in southern israel. the blast came after they assassinated the chief. and the militant group, they said that 15 palestinians were also killed in the attack. and the commander said that they targeted the chief as payback for the rockets that were fired into israel. they are living within 25 miles and being warned to stay home as that fight intensifies. >>> caught on tape. folks wanted for questioning in an...
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and gaza militants blasted over 60 rockets in israel. and abc news was there as one family bolted to their bomb shelter when sirens sounded. with columns of israeli tanks massing on the border, the israeli cabinet is stepping back from the brink, postponing a ground invasion for a day, warning only a long-term cease-fire could avert a ground assault. and the wildcard, of course, george, is the millions of palestinians living in the west bank. and with israel seeming to negotiate albeit indirectly with hamas, more than it has with the palestinian authorities, going to be a very difficult task for secretary clinton to bring some sort of lasting calm here. george? >> boy, it sure is. the white house said time and time again, that israel is right to defend itself. but they want to de-escalate this conflict. >> and depending on egypt to help in that whole effort. all right. >>> let's turn to the deadly string of storms that are pummeling the west coast. with rains, high winds and mud slides. sam champion warned us about it yesterday. he's her
and gaza militants blasted over 60 rockets in israel. and abc news was there as one family bolted to their bomb shelter when sirens sounded. with columns of israeli tanks massing on the border, the israeli cabinet is stepping back from the brink, postponing a ground invasion for a day, warning only a long-term cease-fire could avert a ground assault. and the wildcard, of course, george, is the millions of palestinians living in the west bank. and with israel seeming to negotiate albeit...
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. >>> also this half hour, tensions flare in the middle east, israel reporting direct hits on syrian targets as syria's violence spills across more borders. >> yes, indeed. >>> also ahead, there's word from france this year's champagne harvest is the worst in 40 years. uh-oh, bad news for the french economy and bubbly lovers everywhere. heartbreaking news with new year's a few weeks away. people like a little bubbly on the 31st. do you like champagne? >> oui, oui-oui. >> oui-oui? [ speaking french ] i like some champagne. >> impressed. paula, very nice. au revoir. >> that's the extent of it. [ speaking french ] >> means shut your mouth, please. >> i'll be quiet. >> i should tell that to myself. >>> and then it's that time of year, fall fix-up and clean-up. we're going to have some of the best gadgets to help you get the job done. >> what job would that be? >> cleaning up. >> we begin with the major development in the unfolding scandal surrounding david petraeus. general john allen who's the top military commander of nato forces in afghanistan, well, he's now being investigated by the
. >>> also this half hour, tensions flare in the middle east, israel reporting direct hits on syrian targets as syria's violence spills across more borders. >> yes, indeed. >>> also ahead, there's word from france this year's champagne harvest is the worst in 40 years. uh-oh, bad news for the french economy and bubbly lovers everywhere. heartbreaking news with new year's a few weeks away. people like a little bubbly on the 31st. do you like champagne? >> oui,...
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gaza militants firing on israel. at least one rocket landed in tel aviv, israel's commercial capital. sirens blared as residents hit the ground. three israelis were killed earlier when a rocket hit their apartment in the south. this as israeli war planes pounded the gaza strip. its targets, militant groups, most notably hamas. caught in the crossfire, at least 12 civilians, including an 11-month-old boy. what did my son do to die like this, his father cried? this is what the aftermath of one of the strikes looks like, a massive crater filled with cinder block, rebar, the strong smell of diesel fuel, several houses around were damaged very badly, and residents here on the street tell us they hope hamas and groups will keep firing rockets into israel for retaliation. israel says this is a rise to the almost 800 rockets that had landed in israel from gaza this year alone. this biggest escalation in years began with israel, targeting the car of hamas' top military commander, eliminated in the brink of an eye. israel said
gaza militants firing on israel. at least one rocket landed in tel aviv, israel's commercial capital. sirens blared as residents hit the ground. three israelis were killed earlier when a rocket hit their apartment in the south. this as israeli war planes pounded the gaza strip. its targets, militant groups, most notably hamas. caught in the crossfire, at least 12 civilians, including an 11-month-old boy. what did my son do to die like this, his father cried? this is what the aftermath of one of...
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israel said it was an accident. in southern israel, 3-year-old karen plays with her tricycle until sirens sound. her family rushes down to their bomb shelter. eight members of the malka family huddling together during the explosions. when the sirens sound, you have just 30 seconds to get to the shelter. so families don't leave home. schools and businesses are closed. but back here between the boxes, children were able to get outside and smile while others hoped for quieter times. >> we need peace. we need peace. if they stop, if israel stop, i am sure they will stop. >> reporter: of course, it's not that simple. both sides say they want peace but blame the other for preventing it. while many hope for a peace deal, the missiles keep flying. alex marquardt, abc news, gaza strip. >> thanks a lot, alex. >>> developing news overnight, we just learned that secretary of state hillary clinton is now heading to the middle east tonight. >> not a preplanned visit. all because of this unrest. our coverage continues with lama ha
israel said it was an accident. in southern israel, 3-year-old karen plays with her tricycle until sirens sound. her family rushes down to their bomb shelter. eight members of the malka family huddling together during the explosions. when the sirens sound, you have just 30 seconds to get to the shelter. so families don't leave home. schools and businesses are closed. but back here between the boxes, children were able to get outside and smile while others hoped for quieter times. >> we...
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adding israel has the right to defend itself. rob, paula. >> the meeting lasted a couple hours with benjamin netanyahu. now we are hearing terms like "de-escalation" instead of "cease-fire." is there a chance for a cease-fire at this moment? >> well, it is really complicated. i mean that is the hope. like i said yesterday, that's what everybody was waiting for here, but the terms laid out by both sides. israel wants hamas to stop firing their rockets that have been landing into the southern israeli cities here. and hamas in return wants israel to stop its targeted assassinations which has been carried out as part of this latest operation called pillar of defense. and they also want the siege to be lifted on gaza which has been in place for years now. both sides want their demands. and it is quite difficult to get them to sit down and agree to those terms and agree to a cease-fire. overnight we've seen shelling from the israeli air force as well as from the siege. they've been hitting targets, undon the ground, facilities, and ham
adding israel has the right to defend itself. rob, paula. >> the meeting lasted a couple hours with benjamin netanyahu. now we are hearing terms like "de-escalation" instead of "cease-fire." is there a chance for a cease-fire at this moment? >> well, it is really complicated. i mean that is the hope. like i said yesterday, that's what everybody was waiting for here, but the terms laid out by both sides. israel wants hamas to stop firing their rockets that have...
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. >>> in the middle east, growing concerns that israel is being drawn into the syrian civil war. the israeli military says tank scored a direct hit on a launcher after a stray mortar fell into the golan heights. it has already been in turkey and jordan. >>> john macafee. the multimillionaire, macafee, his name, and lives in belize where his next door neighbor has been found shot to death. police describe 67-year-old macafee as a person of interest in the case. >>> three children are among five family members found dead inside a toledo, ohio garage. police believe it is a case of murder/suicide. all five apparently died of carbon monoxide poisoning from truck exhaust piped in through hoses. police say there was a custody battle over the children, ages 10, 6, 5. they had been in the care of their grandparents for a very long time. >>> florida power company worker paying dearly for a trip to new york to help the lights get back on after sandy. the lakeland electric lineman, john applewhite attacked as he walked into a new york restaurant last week. speculates the guy who hit him was
. >>> in the middle east, growing concerns that israel is being drawn into the syrian civil war. the israeli military says tank scored a direct hit on a launcher after a stray mortar fell into the golan heights. it has already been in turkey and jordan. >>> john macafee. the multimillionaire, macafee, his name, and lives in belize where his next door neighbor has been found shot to death. police describe 67-year-old macafee as a person of interest in the case. >>>...
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israel announced that its tanks shot and hit an armored vehicle in syria today. it's the first time the two sides have directly confronted each other since the civil war in syria began almost two years ago, raising the fear that israel could be dragged into the conflict. israel decided to fire after a mortar shell from syria landed in the golan heights. >>> and back here at home, a new headline, discussed around the kitchen table tonight about autism. we know that 1 in 88 children are diagnosed with the disorder, and this new study suggests that about a flu, during a pregnancy, can increase a child's risk. abc's chief medical editor dr. richard besser here with the whole picture. so many pregnant couples are going to be in fear. what do you want to say to them? >> reporter: well, what the study found was that moms who remembered having the flu during pregnancy, the risk of having an autistic child doubled, it went from 1% up to 2%. still very, very small. and this type of study is called an exploratory study. so, it doesn't prove anything, but it says, hey, we ne
israel announced that its tanks shot and hit an armored vehicle in syria today. it's the first time the two sides have directly confronted each other since the civil war in syria began almost two years ago, raising the fear that israel could be dragged into the conflict. israel decided to fire after a mortar shell from syria landed in the golan heights. >>> and back here at home, a new headline, discussed around the kitchen table tonight about autism. we know that 1 in 88 children are...
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israel said it was an accident. in southern israel where our matt gutman is reporting, 3-year-old karen is playing with her tricycle until sirens sound. eight members of malta family huddling together during the explosion. what we think was one of the iron dome missiles intercepted one of the rockets overhead. there was a big boom and, of course, everybody ran right down into the bunker. when the sirens sound, you have just 30 seconds to get to the shelter. so families don't leave home. schools and businesses are closed. just over the border tonight, egypt is leading intense international talks to broker a cease-fire. in cambodia today, president obama worked the phones calling israel and egypt's leaders. but back here, between the bombs, children were able to get outside and smile while others hoped for quieter times. >> we need peace. we need peace. if they stopped, if sharyn alfonsi stopped, i'm sure they will stop. >> reporter: but of course it's not that simple. both sides say they want peace but blame the othe
israel said it was an accident. in southern israel where our matt gutman is reporting, 3-year-old karen is playing with her tricycle until sirens sound. eight members of malta family huddling together during the explosion. what we think was one of the iron dome missiles intercepted one of the rockets overhead. there was a big boom and, of course, everybody ran right down into the bunker. when the sirens sound, you have just 30 seconds to get to the shelter. so families don't leave home. schools...
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completely siding with israel. so while they would like to see a cease-fire, they say true peace cannot come along until israel stops targeting people in the gaza strip and that blockade of gaza is lifted. george? >> alex marquardt, thanks very much. >>> here at home, it is game on for the more than 43 million americans hitting the road this holiday. tomorrow could be the busiest travel day of the year, but the thanksgiving migration has already begun. americans scrambling into planes, trains and automobiles to make it home for the holiday. our travel team is tracking it all, and abc's senior national correspondent jim avila starts us off. >> reporter: good evening, george. tomorrow is supposed to be the busiest travel day of the year but airlines have cut the number of flights down 3%, and that means that if the weather holds, it actually could be a pleasant week to travel everywhere but in a couple of spots. a twin threat to air travel on the west coast. airport workers scheduled to demonstrate at los angeles int
completely siding with israel. so while they would like to see a cease-fire, they say true peace cannot come along until israel stops targeting people in the gaza strip and that blockade of gaza is lifted. george? >> alex marquardt, thanks very much. >>> here at home, it is game on for the more than 43 million americans hitting the road this holiday. tomorrow could be the busiest travel day of the year, but the thanksgiving migration has already begun. americans scrambling into...
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and this evening, a closer look at israel's iron dome. that some now believe saved lives on both sides of this conflict. abc's matt gutman is in the region again tonight. >> reporter: in gaza, they began scraping away the damage. a massive cleanup, coupled with jubilation. in israel, reservists began packing up and heading home. and streets deserted, all week long, are coming back to life. the rockets and the sirens that sent 3-year-old karin scampering to safety here now quiet. for eight days, three generations of this family huddled in their bomb shelter. afraid to step outside. tonight, karin smiling again. and her grandmother, jillian, able to take a walk. what is it like to be able to walk out on the street again for the first time in more than a week? >> it's wonderful. but we're not terribly hopeful. >> reporter: they still expect the days ahead to bring more rockets, but they say they feel more protected than before. >> now with the iron dome, really, you know, probably the chances of getting hit are smaller than the chance of us
and this evening, a closer look at israel's iron dome. that some now believe saved lives on both sides of this conflict. abc's matt gutman is in the region again tonight. >> reporter: in gaza, they began scraping away the damage. a massive cleanup, coupled with jubilation. in israel, reservists began packing up and heading home. and streets deserted, all week long, are coming back to life. the rockets and the sirens that sent 3-year-old karin scampering to safety here now quiet. for eight...
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real fear this afternoon an all-out war between israel and hamas. israeli ground troops massing for what appears to be a ground offensive into the gaza strip that follows hamas' rocket attacks deep into israel some landing in suburban tel aviv. unconfirmed reports of three israel -- israeli casualties. 15 casualties, including civilians following yesterday's air strike that killed hamas' top military commander. >>> meteorologist mike nicco, keeping a close eye on that rain coming our way soon. >> just about five more hours of daylight and dry weather, to get youries finished before the rain when it comes it is going to come in waves and it is going to be here all weekend. we'll try to give you a timetable and how much you are going to get. >>> also, the investigation into whether 5 hour energy drinks are dangerous, even deadly for some. >>> hostess says it is not kidding, why the company is vowing to shutdown in three hours and >>> there is a new health alert about the popular energy drink 5 hour energy. federal officials say the ding a factor in at
real fear this afternoon an all-out war between israel and hamas. israeli ground troops massing for what appears to be a ground offensive into the gaza strip that follows hamas' rocket attacks deep into israel some landing in suburban tel aviv. unconfirmed reports of three israel -- israeli casualties. 15 casualties, including civilians following yesterday's air strike that killed hamas' top military commander. >>> meteorologist mike nicco, keeping a close eye on that rain coming our...
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israel and hamas both say they are open to a diplomatic solution. airstrikes continue for a sixth day with deadly results, with the elections in israel coming up in january. katie marzullo is here with the latest. >> reporter: we have new video, from this morning, you can see israeli missile hit a highrise in gaza city. the building houses foreign and domestic media offices. islamic jihad said the strike killed one of its top leaders. day six, israeli aircraft has not let up, one strike was captured on video behind cnn's anderson cooper. it was deja vu for cooper who experienced the same thing yesterday, live on the air. >> whoa! >> reporter: over the weekend israel was targeting hopes of hamas activists one strike took out 10 members of one family, four were children thousands attended their funeral today. at the same time dozens of hamas rockets fired into israel, one hit an empty school. >> i very much hope over the coming days we can achieve cessation on a basis that is sustainable. >> reporter: an israeli official says his country wants a diplo
israel and hamas both say they are open to a diplomatic solution. airstrikes continue for a sixth day with deadly results, with the elections in israel coming up in january. katie marzullo is here with the latest. >> reporter: we have new video, from this morning, you can see israeli missile hit a highrise in gaza city. the building houses foreign and domestic media offices. islamic jihad said the strike killed one of its top leaders. day six, israeli aircraft has not let up, one strike...
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if stronger military action is necessary, israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend our people. >> reporter: in addition to wanting all taxes on gaza to stop hamas wants israel to lift restrictions on trade and movement in and out of territory in place since hamas seized gaza in 2007. t.j. winick, abc news, new york. >>> four men have been charged with plotting to join al-qaeda to commit violent jihad against americans. documents show a 34-year-old naturalized u.s. citizen from afghanistan is accused of recruiting three younger men living in los angeles, san bernardino and riverside county one served in the air force they were planning to unite in afghanistan while they plotted to kill americans and destroy u.s. targets overseas. if convicted, they face up to 15 years in prison. >>> mike up ahead to talk about whether the short dry spell is permanent or in between rain. >>> definitely had rain this morning in a few areas not all of us saw it not all of us will see rain out of this system. right now it is a little dry from this advantage point in emeryville towards sa
if stronger military action is necessary, israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend our people. >> reporter: in addition to wanting all taxes on gaza to stop hamas wants israel to lift restrictions on trade and movement in and out of territory in place since hamas seized gaza in 2007. t.j. winick, abc news, new york. >>> four men have been charged with plotting to join al-qaeda to commit violent jihad against americans. documents show a 34-year-old naturalized...
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we go now to jerusalem. >> palestinians continue to fire rockets at israel and israel continues to retaliate. the casualties are mounting. this woman was pulled alive from the rubble. others weren't so lucky. the palestinian authority say 11 civilians died in this house including children. israel says it was targeting a rocket mastermind. israel blames hamas. >> it is obviously incredibly tense and despite the back and forth, we do get the impression that a huge amount of effort is being made to get a cease-fire. >> as the diplomats work for a cease-fire, netanyahu says his government is preparing to expand military operations. israel is uh massing troops to the border for a possible ground invasion. in israel, the eerie wail of sirens echos in the streets. three israelis have died so far in the hamas attacks. two rockets struck these residential buildings in the southern city, but caused no serious injuries. neither sideshows any sign of breaking the circle of violence. >> the former head of the cia has hired one of the top lawyers in washington to help him deal with the cia sex scandal. pe
we go now to jerusalem. >> palestinians continue to fire rockets at israel and israel continues to retaliate. the casualties are mounting. this woman was pulled alive from the rubble. others weren't so lucky. the palestinian authority say 11 civilians died in this house including children. israel says it was targeting a rocket mastermind. israel blames hamas. >> it is obviously incredibly tense and despite the back and forth, we do get the impression that a huge amount of effort is...
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we go now to jerusalem. >> palestinians continue to fire rockets at israel and israel continues to retaliate. the casualties are mounting. this woman was pulled alive from the rubble. others weren't so lucky. the palestinian authority say 11 civilians died in this house including children. israel says it was targeting a rocket mastermind. israel blames hamas. >> it is obviously incredibly tense and despite the back and forth, we do get the impression that a huge amount of effort is being made to get a cease-fire. >> as the diplomats work for a cease-fire, netanyahu says his government is preparing to expand military operations. israel is uh massing troops to the border for a possible ground invasion. in israel, the eerie wail of sirens echos in the streets. three israelis have died so far in the hamas attacks. two rockets struck these residential buildings in the southern city, but caused no serious injuries. neither sideshows any sign of breaking the circle of violence. >> the former head of the cia has hired one of the top lawyers in washington to help him deal with the cia sex scandal. pe
we go now to jerusalem. >> palestinians continue to fire rockets at israel and israel continues to retaliate. the casualties are mounting. this woman was pulled alive from the rubble. others weren't so lucky. the palestinian authority say 11 civilians died in this house including children. israel says it was targeting a rocket mastermind. israel blames hamas. >> it is obviously incredibly tense and despite the back and forth, we do get the impression that a huge amount of effort is...
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several rockets being fired towards israel. hamas fighters launched 500 in the past six days including 75 today. families inntg1÷ israel have ben forced into shelters.. >> it's very scary. we can't go to school.y[.6 >> and air strikes are taking their toll on the ground in gaza. strikes destroyed buildings. the death toll reached 100. this mother lost her 2-year-old and 4-year-old in gaza city saying i'm in shock, i don't believe it. for the second day, israel hit palestinian information leader and wounding two children. >> people are desperate for pain medicine, for antibiotics.. >> barbara lubin is collecting money to buy medicine to take to the gaza strip. >> we've raised $35,000 online 2wple have sent us money online. >> she's been involved in supporting palestinians for 25 years and will be leaving for gaza in the first week, in december. >> people care. 2j are tired of whas been going on there. they want to see a resolution to this problem. and they want to help the children in gaza. >> tonight israel called up reservi
several rockets being fired towards israel. hamas fighters launched 500 in the past six days including 75 today. families inntg1÷ israel have ben forced into shelters.. >> it's very scary. we can't go to school.y[.6 >> and air strikes are taking their toll on the ground in gaza. strikes destroyed buildings. the death toll reached 100. this mother lost her 2-year-old and 4-year-old in gaza city saying i'm in shock, i don't believe it. for the second day, israel hit palestinian...
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his widow requested on whether he was killed by israeli agents using a radio active poison a charge israel denied. yair fat was 75 years old when he died eight years ago. >> the bangladesh called a factory fire that killed 111 garment workers the work of an arsonist, labeling it sabotage but they're not releasing anymore information about a motive. closings dr dr clothing from the western states are made there. protestors marched through the streets. >> a bold move by fda shut down the biggest organic peanut butter plant in the country. we told you with this yesterday at 4:00. today, more about what fda inspectors found inside of that facility. inskbrorkts describe a horror show of a peanut butter plant. a facility with trouble. this morning now shut down, after a wide spread salmonela outbreak that sickened 41 people in 20 states. fda finding salmonela throughout. no hand washing sinks, leaks left water on the floor. and open doors that could allow pets to enter. >> there was a reasonable probability of seriouskru9 injuy or death to consumers from consuming products coming out of this fac
his widow requested on whether he was killed by israeli agents using a radio active poison a charge israel denied. yair fat was 75 years old when he died eight years ago. >> the bangladesh called a factory fire that killed 111 garment workers the work of an arsonist, labeling it sabotage but they're not releasing anymore information about a motive. closings dr dr clothing from the western states are made there. protestors marched through the streets. >> a bold move by fda shut down...
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israel is ready to escalate operations if a deal cannot be reached. it has been amassing ground forces along the border for days, missiles killed 113 in gaza, almost half civilians. more than 700 rockets have landed in israel, three have been killed there. >>> in the bay area, in about 90 minutes the morning shift at the port will have to cross a picket line get to work. amy hollyfield is live at the port. this is going on at oakland airport. >> reporter: that's right this is scheduled to start at 6:00, the second phase of the strike. the first phase started last night. they've picketed at oakland international airport. this is the union that represents maintenance and janitorial workers who work at the port offices. the port authority is asking the union to contribute 5% to their own retirement fund. the union says the strike has been called because of unfair labor practices. they are claiming port was withholding financial information required for bargaining purposes. >> all of our financials are fully available online. we've been fully transparent
israel is ready to escalate operations if a deal cannot be reached. it has been amassing ground forces along the border for days, missiles killed 113 in gaza, almost half civilians. more than 700 rockets have landed in israel, three have been killed there. >>> in the bay area, in about 90 minutes the morning shift at the port will have to cross a picket line get to work. amy hollyfield is live at the port. this is going on at oakland airport. >> reporter: that's right this is...
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there's a steady stream of rocket fire between israel and gaza. israel says it is ready to escalate operations if a deal cannot be reached. it has been an amassing force along the border for days. missiles killed 113 in gaza, almost half civilians. more than 700 rockets landed in israel, three killed there. >>> president obama met today with china's top leaders on the sidelines of the summit. the president says the u.s.-china relationship is cooperative and instructive and important there are clear rules for trade and investment. >>> the pacific northwest is taking a pounding from a storm that mike says is heading our way, oregon and washington are dealing with flash flooding, power outages and property damage from winds, rain and snow, an elk hunter died when a tree snapped and fell on to his tent this morning at least 5,000 homes and businesses don't have power down from 50,000. how is this affecting one of the busiest travel days of the year? we'll check in with katie marzullo in about 30 minutes. >>> could be a little difficult with the crowds
there's a steady stream of rocket fire between israel and gaza. israel says it is ready to escalate operations if a deal cannot be reached. it has been an amassing force along the border for days. missiles killed 113 in gaza, almost half civilians. more than 700 rockets landed in israel, three killed there. >>> president obama met today with china's top leaders on the sidelines of the summit. the president says the u.s.-china relationship is cooperative and instructive and important...
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. >>> israel today fired a warning shot into syria after a stray mortar shell hit an israeli military post. no injuries were reported. >>> authorities allowed some residents to return to their homes in indianapolis after a natural gas explosion killed two people. firefighters found two bodies as they sifted through the rubble of homes leveled last night. four other people suffered minor injuries. the explosion damaged three dozen homes, some of them remain offlimits to residents. investigators spent the day looking for what caused the blast. >>> an update now on a story abc-7 news brought you earlier this week. a missing historic clock has been restored. veterans return the clock to its original sight in 1934 the clock was erected in honor of veterans killed in war. but it was cut off its metal base and stolen after a long court battle over its legality on public land. the cross disappeared two years ago, thankses to a viewer tip, abc-7 news found it this week in san mateo county. >>> ahead, results of a study that coffee drinkers will find hard to swallow. >> thieves are taking advan
. >>> israel today fired a warning shot into syria after a stray mortar shell hit an israeli military post. no injuries were reported. >>> authorities allowed some residents to return to their homes in indianapolis after a natural gas explosion killed two people. firefighters found two bodies as they sifted through the rubble of homes leveled last night. four other people suffered minor injuries. the explosion damaged three dozen homes, some of them remain offlimits to...
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a 2010 survey by british ministry of defense listed canada, finland, france, germany israel, norway, poleland, romania and sweden as country that's allow women 7u australia joined the list when opening it front line units to women. including in afghanistan. >> a bay area woman is not giving up a fight against the federal government after she was fired from the va she's for pointing out errors in veteran disability claims. jenny fox representing her snefl a lawsuit against the va saying she was fired after notifying a supervisor about a;h being rejected. straining her but she will not back down. >> i believe i can nevering forrive myself if i don't stand up and advocate for myself which is advocating for other va employees and veterans. >> an analysis found an error rate of 38% in claims. attorneys for the federal government declined to comment on this case. today's hearing was over issues involving evidence. the trial doesn't start until next year. >> to washington. congress and the president are no closer to a deal to avoid masigs, tax increases in spending cuts that so called fisca
a 2010 survey by british ministry of defense listed canada, finland, france, germany israel, norway, poleland, romania and sweden as country that's allow women 7u australia joined the list when opening it front line units to women. including in afghanistan. >> a bay area woman is not giving up a fight against the federal government after she was fired from the va she's for pointing out errors in veteran disability claims. jenny fox representing her snefl a lawsuit against the va saying...
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real fear this afternoon an all-out war between israel and hamas. israeli ground troops massing for what appears to be a ground offensive into the gaza strip that follows hamas' rocket attacks deep into israel some landing in suburban tel aviv. unconfirmed reports of three israel -- israeli casualties. 15 casualties, including civilians following yesterday's air strike that killed hamas' top military commander. >>> meteorologist mike nicco, keeping a close eye on that rain coming our way soon. >> just about five more hours of daylight and dry weather to get youries finished before the rain when it comes it is going to come in waves and it is going to be here all weekend. we'll try to give you a timetable and how much you are going to get. >>> also, the investigation into whether 5 hour energy drinks are dangerous, even deadly for some. >>> hostess says it is not kidding, why the company is [ female announcer ] this is a special message from at&t. [ male announcer ] it's no secret that the price of things just keeps going up. [ female announcer ] but
real fear this afternoon an all-out war between israel and hamas. israeli ground troops massing for what appears to be a ground offensive into the gaza strip that follows hamas' rocket attacks deep into israel some landing in suburban tel aviv. unconfirmed reports of three israel -- israeli casualties. 15 casualties, including civilians following yesterday's air strike that killed hamas' top military commander. >>> meteorologist mike nicco, keeping a close eye on that rain coming our...
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israel and hamas both say they are open to a diplomatic solution. airstrikes continue for a sixth day with deadly results, with the elections in israel coming up in january. katie marzullo is here with the latest. >> reporter: we have new video, from this morning, you can see israeli missile hit a highrise in gaza city. the building houses foreign and domestic media offices. islamic jihad said the strike killed one of its top leaders. day six, israeli aircraft has not let up, one strike was captured on video behind cnn's anderson cooper. it was deja vu for cooper who experienced the same thing yesterday, live on the air. >> whoa! >> reporter: over the weekend israel was targeting hopes of hamas activists one strike took out 10 members of one family, four were children thousands attended their funeral today. at the same time dozens of hamas rockets fired into israel, one hit an empty school. >> i very much hope over the coming days we can achieve cessation on a basis that is sustainable. >> reporter: an israeli official says his country wants a diplo
israel and hamas both say they are open to a diplomatic solution. airstrikes continue for a sixth day with deadly results, with the elections in israel coming up in january. katie marzullo is here with the latest. >> reporter: we have new video, from this morning, you can see israeli missile hit a highrise in gaza city. the building houses foreign and domestic media offices. islamic jihad said the strike killed one of its top leaders. day six, israeli aircraft has not let up, one strike...
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if stronger military action is necessary, israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend our people. >> reporter: in addition to wanting all taxes on gaza to stop hamas wants israel to lift restrictions on trade and movement in and out of territory in place since hamas seized gaza in 2007. t.j. winick, abc news, new york. >>> four men have been charged with plotting to join al-qaeda to commit violent jihad against americans. documents show a 34-year-old naturalized u.s. citizen from afghanistan is accused of recruiting three younger men living in los angeles, san bernardino and riverside county one served in the air force they were planning to unite in afghanistan while they plotted to kill americans and destroy u.s. targets overseas. if convicted, they face up to 15 years in prison. >>> mike up ahead to talk about whether the short dry spell is permanent or in between rain. >>> definitely had rain this morning in a few areas not all of us saw it not all of us will see rain out of this system. right now it is a little dry from this advantage point in emeryville towards sa
if stronger military action is necessary, israel will not hesitate to do what is necessary to defend our people. >> reporter: in addition to wanting all taxes on gaza to stop hamas wants israel to lift restrictions on trade and movement in and out of territory in place since hamas seized gaza in 2007. t.j. winick, abc news, new york. >>> four men have been charged with plotting to join al-qaeda to commit violent jihad against americans. documents show a 34-year-old naturalized...
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about rocket continue to be fired for a seventh straight day and israel concedes it targeted and killed 3 palestinian journalist saying they had ties to militants. >> back here a one day strike at the port of oakland ended earlier than planned. the strike was by custodial maintenance worker who oppose cut to retirement benefit. some independent truckers who could not get that the port say they were losing about 400 dollars in wages per truck. yawn workers tonight agree to resume contract negotiations. the port reopened by 7 tonight. 2 hours earlier than actually expected and scheduled. last ditch effort to save hostess has failed. company says mediation talk with the baker and confection union broke down late today without an agreemen agreement. the company says it will head to bankruptcy court after all tomorrow with the intention to sell off its assets including the twivrpingie brand. more than 18,000 workers around the country including hundreds ins oakland will last their jobs. >>> florida company will pay 2 and half million dollar fines for trying to manipulate the state power mark
about rocket continue to be fired for a seventh straight day and israel concedes it targeted and killed 3 palestinian journalist saying they had ties to militants. >> back here a one day strike at the port of oakland ended earlier than planned. the strike was by custodial maintenance worker who oppose cut to retirement benefit. some independent truckers who could not get that the port say they were losing about 400 dollars in wages per truck. yawn workers tonight agree to resume contract...
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survey by the british ministry of defense listed canada, denmark, finland france germany israel the netherlands norway positive lapped romaine why and sweetden country allow women in close combat roles. australia joined the list in september of last year when it opened the front-line quantity to women including largest contingent in afghanistan. >> all right let's mav on. return to where we started with at the to the of the broadcast. you have got a lot to do with the weather center looks prett pretty. >>th disaster for the morning. most people commuting in the morning between 5 and 10:00 a.m. is the worst of the wind and written will hit. fast mover so show you live picture from our roof cam are. lovely view of the full moon and we do have clouds starting to move in but the rain still far behind. it will arrive as i mention in the morning. is you will see from that perspective that we have the clouds coming in on definitely levels own radar on mt. st. helens that. first tracking in a series of storms expected to arrive tomorrow morning and will slam us first thing in the morning. temperatures
survey by the british ministry of defense listed canada, denmark, finland france germany israel the netherlands norway positive lapped romaine why and sweetden country allow women in close combat roles. australia joined the list in september of last year when it opened the front-line quantity to women including largest contingent in afghanistan. >> all right let's mav on. return to where we started with at the to the of the broadcast. you have got a lot to do with the weather center looks...
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new worries this morning that israel is being drawn more deeply into the civil war in syria. the israeli military says tanks scored a direct hit on syrian targets, after a stray mortar fell into the golden heights. the syrian conflict has spilled into turkey, jordan and lebanon, with deadly consequences there. >>> this morning, secretary of state hillary clinton has arrived in australia for a summit on strengthening defense ties and fighting cyber threats from other countries, including china. president obama travels to asia later this week for historic visits to myanmar and cambodia. >>> former vice presidential candidate paul ryan has confirmed reports that election night results took the romney camp completely by surprise. ryan told our milwaukee station that the campaign was well-run. but in the end, it was not enough. he says reality finally sank in when they lost ohio. >> the polling we had, the numbers we were looking at, looked like we stood a pretty good chance of winning. so, when the numbers came in, you know, going the other direction, and we saw the kind of turno
new worries this morning that israel is being drawn more deeply into the civil war in syria. the israeli military says tanks scored a direct hit on syrian targets, after a stray mortar fell into the golden heights. the syrian conflict has spilled into turkey, jordan and lebanon, with deadly consequences there. >>> this morning, secretary of state hillary clinton has arrived in australia for a summit on strengthening defense ties and fighting cyber threats from other countries,...
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but the relationship between israel and the united states is very solid. and there are very big issues ahead, not least what to do about iran. we talked about a lot of that over the months and years. will there be a renewed push for the israeli/palestinean peace process. >> are there areas you can see the u.s. taking new action? >> well, again, of course it wasn't a foreign policy election. and that is always so in american elections. and i think you are probably a little bit right there because it is a little status quo. if we've seen anything from both president obama and, indeed, candidate mitt romney, there is a sense of retrenched america, a sense of america not wanting to project its power abroad. look, the wars are ending. that's a good thing. people are coming home. but also will america lead in some of the very tricky areas that still are out there? syria, we've been talking about for the last 20 months. both president obama and mitt romney said that assad has to go. if they don't do anything about that, it makes america look a little bit weak. i
but the relationship between israel and the united states is very solid. and there are very big issues ahead, not least what to do about iran. we talked about a lot of that over the months and years. will there be a renewed push for the israeli/palestinean peace process. >> are there areas you can see the u.s. taking new action? >> well, again, of course it wasn't a foreign policy election. and that is always so in american elections. and i think you are probably a little bit right...
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. >> what about israel? i don't think i've ever seen a foreign leader inject himself into a domestic u.s. campaign as much as benjamin netanyahu did. but at the end, he seemed to move the israeli deadline for action in iran or against iran until well after the u.s. election. so now that the election is all done and settled, what does he do? >> exactly. here are the two issues. on the one hand, he did inject himself into the election. and many people believe that it was no secret that prime minister netanyahu would have preferred mitt romney to be president of the united states. ness say the prime minister immediately congratulated president obama on his re-election and said that they would work together especially on issues of national security. for israel. what happens next? this is a big question. these so-called red lines that nobody wanted to ever define except for israel has now potentially been put off until spring or summer. but this just keeps pushing the ball down the line. kicking the ball down the
. >> what about israel? i don't think i've ever seen a foreign leader inject himself into a domestic u.s. campaign as much as benjamin netanyahu did. but at the end, he seemed to move the israeli deadline for action in iran or against iran until well after the u.s. election. so now that the election is all done and settled, what does he do? >> exactly. here are the two issues. on the one hand, he did inject himself into the election. and many people believe that it was no secret...
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democratic congressman steve israel who represents huntington area of long island is calling for the former fema director james dewit to sort it out. if the army corp of engineers can turn lights on in cabul they should be dispatched to turn on the light necessary new york. republican congressman wants president obama to personally intervene to make sure all assets are deployed to the impacted region. uma. >> thank you very much. we'll be speaking with congressman michael grimm whose residents are frustrated at this hour. and turning to another store store making newings . in the cia, at the worst possible time. general david petraeus stepping down an the fbi probe uncovered an affair with a married biographer. >> the affair kale to light in a investigation. the fbi discovered paula broadwell had acess to general petraeus' account. they monitored the e-mails. although he was not under investigation there were concern of a security breach and broadwell was stalking him and they discovered the affair. and meanwhile petraeus who was the cia director for over a year was supposed to testi
democratic congressman steve israel who represents huntington area of long island is calling for the former fema director james dewit to sort it out. if the army corp of engineers can turn lights on in cabul they should be dispatched to turn on the light necessary new york. republican congressman wants president obama to personally intervene to make sure all assets are deployed to the impacted region. uma. >> thank you very much. we'll be speaking with congressman michael grimm whose...
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that's why i, along with congressman king and congressman israel, have asked the president of the united states to bring all the forces of the federal government in to rebuild our infrom structure. powering the houses is number 1. but our sewage facilities. some of the sewage facilities are dumping untreated waste into the bay. they have to be rebuilt. our water supply system has to be rebuilt. this is something that the federal government has the experience of doing, and i know local officials would welcome them with open arms. >> jamie: you know, the u.s. army corps of engineer, one of the federal authorities has been asked to be brought in by you and congressman king and others, you know, i made the point yesterday that they helped put electricity into bagdad and kabul and this is long island. everyone there, including yourself, still waiting, it is hard to believe. >> total frustration. i understand, those who have not had power, kids sleeping in cold rooms. this is our katrina on long island. we need a better response from the federal government. >> jamie: senator, your talking out
that's why i, along with congressman king and congressman israel, have asked the president of the united states to bring all the forces of the federal government in to rebuild our infrom structure. powering the houses is number 1. but our sewage facilities. some of the sewage facilities are dumping untreated waste into the bay. they have to be rebuilt. our water supply system has to be rebuilt. this is something that the federal government has the experience of doing, and i know local officials...
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israel, it appears that has been drawn into the conflict in siriasm the israeli military says its forces fired warning shots into syria, in response to a stray mortar shell that landed in a golan heights settlement. no one was hurt, but there are fears that the syrian war could broaden and into turn into a regional conflick. the israeli forces have filed a complaint with the united nations. fruferations are boil over in new york as the lights lights ad much-needed heed -- heat are out. the power company says it could be until tuesday or later to get the area fully restored. we go live to oceanside, new york, with more. >> reporter: hello to you, shannon. the numbers can be very misleading as to how many people are cold and in the dark. that's because tens of thousands of them have electrical equipment that is so internally damaged by super storm sandy's storm surge, that it needs to be repaired, tested and certified for the power companies to get going and try to fix that problem for them. angry residents protested and new york's governor andrew cuomo has call the the long island power a
israel, it appears that has been drawn into the conflict in siriasm the israeli military says its forces fired warning shots into syria, in response to a stray mortar shell that landed in a golan heights settlement. no one was hurt, but there are fears that the syrian war could broaden and into turn into a regional conflick. the israeli forces have filed a complaint with the united nations. fruferations are boil over in new york as the lights lights ad much-needed heed -- heat are out. the...
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. >> gregg: time for a quick check of the headlines, israel is being drawn into the fight for the syria for the first time. firing warning shots after a stray mortar shell hit an israeli military post. an earthquake rocking myarmar. 12 people are feared dead. and phil jackson reportedly to rejoining the los angeles lakers as coach. two days after the team fired mike brown after a poor start to the season. >> heather: killing two people in indianapolis. force of last night's blast damaged three dozen other homes. fire lieutenant saying the scene looks like a war zone. seven other victims were taken to the hospital with injuries. the names of the two people were killed have not yet been released. >> gregg: in recent years the obama administration and wall street have endured what might be described as an uneasy if not shaky relationship. the dow is back to its pre-recession levels right now but some of the president's rhetoric using terms like fat cat bankers prompted top executives to contribute millions if not tens of millions to governor romney's campaign. some are asking if wall stree
. >> gregg: time for a quick check of the headlines, israel is being drawn into the fight for the syria for the first time. firing warning shots after a stray mortar shell hit an israeli military post. an earthquake rocking myarmar. 12 people are feared dead. and phil jackson reportedly to rejoining the los angeles lakers as coach. two days after the team fired mike brown after a poor start to the season. >> heather: killing two people in indianapolis. force of last night's blast...
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is israel at the brink of war? >> the provision is very clear, we are determined to bring peace and tranquility to israel. more than a million people are under attack today. missiles have been trying into tel aviv right here behind me, 15 minutes ago, we had a missile coming over into jerusalem. we are determined, we are using the air force, but if we need to do it, we will use a ground forces to insure the well-being of the israelis. >> do you think the final outcome is that you are going to have to be engaged in a ground war? >> i think in the next two days we will have to take a decision. if we will see the hamas coming and begging for tranquility, for cease fire action then we will consider it. but if it will continue with the sending the rockets all over under civilian population, we will not hesitate. we will do whatever is necessary to bring peace to our people and the hamas, they are using children. they are hiding behind children and sending the missiles into the civilian population. it is a war that we ar
is israel at the brink of war? >> the provision is very clear, we are determined to bring peace and tranquility to israel. more than a million people are under attack today. missiles have been trying into tel aviv right here behind me, 15 minutes ago, we had a missile coming over into jerusalem. we are determined, we are using the air force, but if we need to do it, we will use a ground forces to insure the well-being of the israelis. >> do you think the final outcome is that you...